King Josiah destroying the idols of Baal.
Previously,
Israel has been shielded from foreign invaders but now it will be punished by
the empire from the north. Child sacrifice, neglect of the poor, idolatry and
sexual cult ritual have turned God’s favor from his people as they have turned away
from God. Attempts at reform have come too little and too late to meet God’s
expectations. Exile draws near and restoration of the righteous is promised but
they must wait patiently for this process to run its course.
Carl: Can
the lord forgive? God is using the word “defiled “ in Ch. 3:2 “you defiled the land/With your whoring and
your debauchery…”
God doesn’t
appear to be closing the door – there is a ray of hope here.
Joel: There
is a very specific morality here. Men can whore about but women can’t. Women
are blamed for men straying.
Ceil: If a
couple strayed they were both stoned.
Joel: There
is the famous Torah story of a man and a woman copulating at the altar and
Pinchas (Phineas) runs his sword through the two of them in one action.
Carl:
Doesn’t this bother you?
Joel: Well,
yes. In the text Pinchas is rewarded directly by God for his righteousness.
Carl: God
isn’t saying he is jealous, but he does seem to be expressing this emotion.
Joel: The
contract is with Israel and her actions are being described as a whoring adulteress.
Carl: If God
mentions his jealousy then this would mean that he can be emotionally hurt.
Joel: In the
text he does respond as an injured being.
Carl: But
God is infinite and this makes him appear finite so that the humans – his
spin-off creations, can understand.
Joel: Maimonides
said that God appears human only so we can understand him.
Carl: So I
am in good company.
Julie: We
are made in God’s image; it doesn’t specify exactly how.
Carl: If God
has an issue he will decide in a finite way how to resolve it.
Julie: In
this case he is sending in the Babylonian Empire to punish the people.
Carl: Is Judah
being saved by Josiah?
Joel: Josiah
is seen as the first monotheistic reformer but his reforms are unable to off-
set how far the people have strayed. He dies at the battle of Megiddo.
Jane: Josiah
dies in 609BCE.
Julie: Maybe
he is the lucky one. He doesn’t have to see his people conquered.
Jane: Referring to Ch. 3:14 “Turn back, rebellious
children…since I have espoused/you, I will take you…
Jonathan: This
sounds very familiar. It sounds like Isaiah. It sounds like the two prophets
are texting each other.
Jane: This
is the rationale for the coming punishment.
Carl: Referring
to ch3:22 “Turn back, O rebellious children,/I will heal your afflictions!”
God seems to
be relenting.
Julie: He
will forgive them but they are still getting punished.
Jane: This is like a time-out.
Joel:
Creativity happens under stress. The prophets are the expression of this stress.
But it’s a process. They lead the way to modern Judaism.
Jane: Cataclysmic
events drive change.
Joel: The
prophets bring in a new level, a more sophisticated level of morality that is
developing under tremendous political and social upheaval.
Chapter 4
Jane: Referring
to Ch. 4: 15-17 “Hark, one proclaims from Dan/And announces calamity from Mount
Ephraim!/Tell the nations: Here they are!/ Announce concerning Jerusalem:/
Watchers are coming from a distant land,/ They raise their voices against the
towns of Judah,/ Like guards of fields, they surround her on every side.”
This is war.
Ceil: Yes,
it sounds like an invasion.
Jane: Referring
to Ch 4:23-26 “I look at the earth,/It is unformed and void;/ At the skies,/And
their light is gone…I look: no man is left,/…
God is giving the warning. If you keep this up,
this is what is in store for you. He is telling them the future.
Jonathan: If
you don’t stop, I’ll call your mother… This is the story of Jewish Guilt!
Joel: This
is more like “Wait till your father gets home!!.”
Joel:
Illness, plague, crop failure… these things are always the repercussions of
poor behavior. It kind of gets annoying.
Ceil: This
is not limited to Judaism. Most people would ask, “What have I done to deserve
this?”
Jonathan:
Well, an atheist might say, I ate poorly or this illness is due to my genes. This
is the reason I am ill, but a believing Jew would eat chicken fat and then say,
why am I ill? God must be punishing me.”
Carl:
referring to Ch. 4:4 “Remove the thickening about your hearts…”
This is
about the dangers of cholesterol.
All: Laugh!
Carl: This
is so descriptive.
Joel: Yeah,
it’s all powerful poetry.
Chapter 5
Carl:
referring to Ch. 5: 5 “the poor…/They act foolishly;/ For they do not know the
way of the LORD,/ …I will go to the wealthy/And speak with them.”
Joel: The
wealthy should know better, but they are worse.
Ceil: The
poor may not know better.
Joel: The
prophets are always railing against the rich.
Jonathan:
Same as today.
Ceil: The
wealthy should be more moral because they have more information.
Jane: They
are arrogant because they know and still do not do the right thing.
Carl: This sounds
so crazy, rambling and redundant.
Joel: I don’t
think this is rambling at all. I think he’s on target.
Julie: God
is laying out the reasons for the upcoming punishment. I work for the Dept. of
Education in New York. When I do staff development I always begin by telling
the group what I am about to discuss, then reiterate the important points and
sum them up again at the end.
Paul:
referring to5:: 4-5 “The poor folk;/ they act foolishly…”
Why punish
fools? Why not educate them?
Joel: The
Rabbis are clear on who is foolish. It is not people of low I/Q s. as we would
have it today. They mean people who do not accept the reality of God. They mean
the non-believers.
Ceil: Dumb
means you should know better.
Jane: or
ungrateful.
Julie: The
people are foolish for not following what I have shown them.
Ceil: It’s
ultimately about transgression.
Jonathan: It
can mean a person lacking in judgment.
Historians
and cultural critics have noted that Jeremiah’s form is exactly like ancient
near East court of law tracts between a King or Overlord and his vassal state. The
Overlord will send a messenger to read a document to the offending vassal stating his
case. There is an implied accusation, a description of what the Overlord has
done for the vassal state, a declarations of the vassal’s guilt and then
culpability. This format is also seen in the book of Deuteronomy, which was contemporaneous
with Jeremiah. We see here the Prophets using existing material, but put to new
use in the service of a new Judaism.
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